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"2Beers" 1974 Pinto TC
#61

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......................... Shy
Placerville, California
(former)  '78 2.3T Courier w/blow-thru Autolite 2bbl carb ~ (current)  '87 2.3T Ranger w/PiMP’d EFI
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#62

Don't use electrical tape, it melts when it gets hot or gets any fluids on it and will just make it all a sticky mess. Use proper harness tape (which only sticks to itself...some of this comes with the RF harness) or use Tesa tape, or use a loom of some sort (braided for instance).
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#63

Thanks guys

A guy has been extremely busy with life.
But......
I did run into a few hiccups on the little car end of last week.
First was heater core dripping a very small drip inside car, I'll have to pull unit again and replace.
Dropped antifreeze etc ...but before I noticed wet spot and drip.
A feller was able to start it...then things went quickly backwards on me.

Not sure what's going on and haven't had the proper time to check things out yet.....
Car did hit and run for a minute or two before I jumped inside and could hear middle relay on new harness clicking.
???????
Knowing this wasn't right I shut it off.
After checking start/run wires and moving them to a different spot I have lost spark completely.
This is where I had to stop and get on with honey do's and life.
Hope to be back at it and find out what's going on ,later today.
so close but yet so very far away...haaaaaa
Buggars anyways.

EDIT:
So awesome to see both of your names and comments guys.
Very appreciated.
Been a long time lurker and have many a page printed out from you both on lots of subjects...my father even more so.
Huge binder with tons of gleamed information on the smalls.
Years worth.
Thanks again for all the advice and following along.

Forgot to ask....
Any ideas why my new timing belt is walking a bit forward ?
something simple I missed on installation ?
Currently about an 1/8 of an inch off the upper cam gear.
will it center back up once car is running longer ?

Thanks in advance.
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#64

(09-14-2021, 11:01 AM)2Beers Wrote:  Thanks guys

A guy has been extremely busy with life.
But......
I did run into a few hiccups on the little car end of last week.
First was heater core dripping a very small drip inside car, I'll have to pull unit again and replace.
Dropped antifreeze etc ...but before I noticed wet spot and drip.
A feller was able to start it...then things went quickly backwards on me.

Not sure what's going on and haven't had the proper time to check things out yet.....
Car did hit and run for a minute or two before I jumped inside and could hear middle relay on new harness clicking.
???????
Knowing this wasn't right I shut it off.
After checking start/run wires and moving them to a different spot I have lost spark completely.
This is where I had to stop and get on with honey do's and life.
Hope to be back at it and find out what's going on ,later today.
so close but yet so very far away...haaaaaa
Buggars anyways.

EDIT:
So awesome to see both of your names and comments guys.
Very appreciated.
Been a long time lurker and have many a page printed out from you both on lots of subjects...my father even more so.
Huge binder with tons of gleamed information on the smalls.
Years worth.
Thanks again for all the advice and following along.

Forgot to ask....
Any ideas why my new timing belt is walking a bit forward  ?
something simple I missed on installation ?
Currently about an 1/8 of an inch off the upper cam gear.
will it center back up once car is running longer ?

Thanks in advance.
I have noticed that my timing belt also ran at the forward edge of the cam gear. It never came off, or shredded the edges, so my supposition is that the crank pulley is what keeps it aligned (somebody correct please if I am wrong).
Glad you are making progress.
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#65

@Pintoroy
I missed putting the little belt guide washer back on.
I now see how this holds the belt at bay ..
"Duh" on my part for missing it.
But thanks my friend.
Was a brain fart on my end.
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#66

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There are two "guides" intended to maintain t/belt alignment, Ron.....a large disc behind the cam sprocket and another similar yet smaller disc that is in FRONT of the crank sprocket (sandwiched between the sprocket & crank pulley). Both have curved outside edges that should be angled AWAY from the belt. 

The only other things that MIGHT cause the t/belt to come forward on the cam sprocket would be, (1) A worn tensioner bearing (allowing the roller to be skewed), or (2) The cam and crank "tunnels" (bores) to be non-parallel with each other (EXTREMELY unlikely and, other than align-boring the block or head........impossible to change). <shrug>

ADDENDUM: I see you figured it out while I was typing, lol.
Placerville, California
(former)  '78 2.3T Courier w/blow-thru Autolite 2bbl carb ~ (current)  '87 2.3T Ranger w/PiMP’d EFI
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#67

(09-14-2021, 05:30 PM)TurboRay Wrote:  .
There are two "guides" intended to maintain t/belt alignment, Ron.....a large disc behind the cam sprocket and another similar yet smaller disc that is in FRONT of the crank sprocket (sandwiched between the sprocket & crank pulley. Both have curved outside edges that should be pointing AWAY from the belt. 

The only other things that MIGHT cause the t/belt to come forward on the cam sprocket would be, (1) A worn tensioner bearing (allowing the roller to be skewed), or (2) The cam and crank "tunnels" (bores) to be non-parallel with each other (EXTREMELY unlikely and, other than align-boring the block or head........impossible to change). <shrug>

ADDENDUM: I see you figured it out while I was typing, lol.

Thanks Ray.
Ya...hehehee I goofed up and missed putting the lower guide back on.
All better now.
and........drum roll please.

The little car is running.
After 2 more hours at looking at and pulling my hair out on wiring.
All was right.
That my friends was my cue to go back and check timing again. Only thing it pretty much could have been.
And again I goofed up ....and forgot to tighten the idler bolts..... Aaaargh.
Cam gear was off around a 1/4 turn of alignment of TDC.
Duh again,
Quick replacement of marks and belt and Vroom she says.
Yay for our ford team.

Ron Francis Wiring harness Rocks !
It truly is a simple plug and play set up.
Just check your timing and all should be good with the world. 

Thanks again for all the advice and knowledge shared.
Lots to do still.
Thanks for following along too.
more soon.
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#68

Off topic sort of.
But a feller is having a really good time with this little simple build mostly.
And the itch is developing into doing something cool and more different with other TC parts cars.

Doing what I do for a job..(propane delivery driver)
I know where their are some cool little rides hid out in my area.
Thinking once this little pinto is road worthy I may start pounding the pavement on finding another car of sorts to do the TC swap too.
I know of an early year Ford Ranchero that's ripe and in amazing shape.
1930 Model A special coupe, and 1927 Model T roadster pickup.
A farmer I know has hid in his back 40 a slew of T's and A's...almost 20 acres of cars and parts. clear into the early 60's stuff.
Anywhoooo, Might be something in the works for this winter to go find something a bit more unique to build and use up some more hard to come by parts.

I also got a lead on a 1988 TC complete car for 1500 or OBO.
Has electrical problems.
Might try and scoop it up shortly also.

Thanks again for following along.
The struggles are Ford real.
More soon.
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#69

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The Falcon Ranchero sounds like a good candidate.......is it for sale? '60 - '63 was the "first generation" (the lightest, and my favorite). In 1964 (thru '65) they changed the body style to a more "squared off" design. I owned a '66 Ranchero (200 cid, 3-to-the-tree).....the '66-up were of a larger/heavier style that were made I THINK on the Fairlane platform and were my least favorite.  <shrug>
Placerville, California
(former)  '78 2.3T Courier w/blow-thru Autolite 2bbl carb ~ (current)  '87 2.3T Ranger w/PiMP’d EFI
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#70

(09-15-2021, 05:41 PM)TurboRay Wrote:  .
The Falcon Ranchero sounds like a good candidate.......is it for sale? '60 - '63 was the "first generation" (the lightest, and my favorite). In 1964 (thru '65) they changed the body style to a more "squared off" design. I owned a '66 Ranchero (200 cid, 3-to-the-tree).....the '66-up were of a larger/heavier style that were made I THINK on the Fairlane platform and were my least favorite.  <shrug>

Thanks TRay
yes on 60/63
It was for sale a few years back along with two Falcons , They currently have moved it under a huge willow tree. I'll probably be checking on it in a a month or so to see if it's still for sale.
The early falcons sold of course.

Lets see, Heater core came in. and of course was wrong.
So I refunded that one and had to order another threw a different parts store. Coming from Denver Colorado . Supposed to be her tomorrow....yay!
Thinking todays journeys will be finishing routing and cover the driver side wires and finish making Purdy.

Still debating on a direction for exhaust.
Probably just going to finish out 2 1/2 the whole way.

Maybe some pictures today.

Here is Bad Bob
Built like 5 years ago.
1980 Bobcat Purchased for $75.00
Clean gas and a new battery needed only. Had under 90 thousand miles on it.
Drove it a year or two with stock drive train.
We purchased a turbo coupe bout the same time for a $100.00

Bob was put together though with parts laying around.
The build took two months start to finish...mostly wiring issues....ugh 1987 TC was donor wire harness.
cars been drove over 20,000 miles pushing 20 plus pounds of boost on stock 4 speed and 6.5 rearend.
Stock radiator etc.
Total cost was almost $600.00 start to finish.
anywhooo some pics.

And some progress pics of the 74



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