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Has anyone had any luck running an A/C system off the 2.3T with some mods?  I've got a 86 Turbocoupe engine/trans/LA3, stock E6 manifold, stock T3, etc in my 86 Mustang.  The car never had A/C to begin with, so when the engine went in, all the A/C hardware came off and most went in the trash.  I might have the brackets somewhere to bolt the compressor to the engine, but that's about it.  Is there a later Mustang or Turbocoupe A/C compressor and brackets I might be able to adapt?  Or has anyone adapted a later Sanden compressor tot he 2.3T?  Kind of hoping someone might have already done it so I don't have to reinvent the wheel.
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(06-26-2020, 03:12 AM)Jimmy2.3Mustang Wrote:  Has anyone had any luck running an A/C system off the 2.3T with some mods?  I've got a 86 Turbocoupe engine/trans/LA3, stock E6 manifold, stock T3, etc in my 86 Mustang.  The car never had A/C to begin with, so when the engine went in, all the A/C hardware came off and most went in the trash.  I might have the brackets somewhere to bolt the compressor to the engine, but that's about it.  Is there a later Mustang or Turbocoupe A/C compressor and brackets I might be able to adapt?  Or has anyone adapted a later Sanden compressor tot he 2.3T?  Kind of hoping someone might have already done it so I don't have to reinvent the wheel.
So, I have converted to a denso compressor off of a 91-93 Mustang with a 2.3 I used that compressor and the bracket. ALSO at the same time I converted to a serpentine setup from an 87-88 Tbird.


Here is my writeup.  I'm not a huge fan of the AN fittings in that location but that may be as good as it will get.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Reod...sp=sharing
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#3

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I'll keep my guns, money, and freedom. You keep the "change"
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#4

Link works for me. That gives me a bit of hope. Now I just need to find time to start collecting the parts if I want to proceed.

Any other documented A/C builds out there? I've looked around a little, but haven't seen much. I was just going to sell the car and build another with A/C, but all it seems to attract are dreamers and tire kickers, no one actually wants to come get it.
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#5

I built my 88 turbocoupe's ac system using a 91-93 compressor. With the original condenser, it wasn't very efficient with r134. It's 110+ here in the summer, and I don't like tinted windows, mainly because of the reduced visibility at night
In the end, I ordered a generic, parallel flow condenser off eBay. I also made sure to block off all the openings around the condenser/ radiator, so all the air entering goes through the condenser. I  had custom lines made to match the condenser fittings. I also used a different orifice tube and have a 97 tbird fan.  It works pretty good. I think the biggest reason I still don't like it, is the blower motor just doesn't push enough air. So it takes forever to get the car cooled back down, after it's been parked in the sun. 
I have a meat thermometer in the center vent and I see 40 to 50* on it regularly.
1988 turbocoupe, 162k, 5spd, all stock, except manual boost control valve and ported E6 and IHI
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(06-27-2020, 08:36 PM)boboli Wrote:  I built my 88 turbocoupe's ac system using a 91-93 compressor. With the original condenser, it wasn't very efficient with r134. It's 110+ here in the summer, and I don't like tinted windows, mainly because of the reduced visibility at night
In the end, I ordered a generic, parallel flow condenser off eBay. I also made sure to block off all the openings around the condenser/ radiator, so all the air entering goes through the condenser. I  had custom lines made to match the condenser fittings. I also used a different orifice tube and have a 97 tbird fan.  It works pretty good. I think the biggest reason I still don't like it, is the blower motor just doesn't push enough air. So it takes forever to get the car cooled back down, after it's been parked in the sun. 
I have a meat thermometer in the center vent and I see 40 to 50* on it regularly.

Any chance you have a picture of the bracket you used to mount the compressor? 

Also, how close is the compressor to the inlet of the turbo? I've seen some comments that it is too close to get an air intake so they had to use a stubby air filter.
84 Capri RS Turbo - total rebuild. Running, 7 years later.
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#7

Conveniently,I have a dual plug motor laying in my yard. Let me know if you want better pics of the bracket. I can take it apart when it's not 110* degrees outside.
I am using the stock ihi/ vam and I have no clearance issues. But the lines to the ac manifold have been modified. So I'm not sure how the stock stuff would fit.
And fyi, I had to get a four seasons accumulator and line. I tried a different brand and the aluminum pipe coming out of the accumulator wouldn't clear the stock intercooler. So maybe that one was based on a smaller svo intercooler

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yMckeS91y9eq7KWY7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NkfkP7o26o6aBJut8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vbuHCydTU4jRAivi9

Here's some pics of the dial plug ac bracket/ compressor
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2fasaD9kBfsF3fjo8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Stu7apvh38UPXLXh8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2hN887QpvXB9zWHz8
1988 turbocoupe, 162k, 5spd, all stock, except manual boost control valve and ported E6 and IHI
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#8

I just used all the dual plug stuff.  Pulleys, brackets, everything, from the original engine that came in my 93 coupe.  Swapped in the TC engine, used all the brackets except the upper alternator bracket, which I had to use from a 87 TC. 

On the line assembly (both the liquid line and the "hot" line) are one piece on the 93.  The line set had to be bent a little to clear everything, but maybe 1/8" at the most.  It works fine.  A/C isn't stellar in comparison to newer cars/trucks but it DOES work, and works decently enough to get me through the 100+ degree days that we typically have here.  I need to get the windows tinted, that'll help greatly.  R134A converted, using the stock condenser.

I would, however, suggest pulling the fan out of the box and cleaning the evaporator.  That made a huge difference.  The evaporator gets a bunch of junk on it, dirt and what have you.  Grab a can of foaming cleaner, spray 'er down, let is soak in and it'll run off on it's own.  Mine was so bad that I had to remove the resistor assembly from the box and then use a long blow gun to blow back through the evap core.  BTW this is a factory installed a/c system 93 coupe.

Had to replace the line set and the accumulator/dryer, as well as the hose with the orifice in it.  They were unknown condition when I got the car so I just replaced them rather than fooling with 'em.

Be warned, off boost in the heat, the a/c sucks the power out of the engine, but in my case, I'm 150% glad that I have a/c that works.  It's a necessity here, not just something that's nice to have--especially if you're sitting in traffic.
'93 Mustang 2.3T swapped. LA3, Stinger FMIC 3" down elbow and 3" exhaust.
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#9

(06-27-2020, 08:36 PM)boboli Wrote:  I built my 88 turbocoupe's ac system using a 91-93 compressor. With the original condenser, it wasn't very efficient with r134. It's 110+ here in the summer, and I don't like tinted windows, mainly because of the reduced visibility at night
In the end, I ordered a generic, parallel flow condenser off eBay. I also made sure to block off all the openings around the condenser/ radiator, so all the air entering goes through the condenser. I  had custom lines made to match the condenser fittings. I also used a different orifice tube and have a 97 tbird fan.  It works pretty good. I think the biggest reason I still don't like it, is the blower motor just doesn't push enough air. So it takes forever to get the car cooled back down, after it's been parked in the sun. 
I have a meat thermometer in the center vent and I see 40 to 50* on it regularly.
It looks like you are in AZ too. I run computer duster in my car and if it sits out in the sun she takes a bit to cool down for sure. That and im sure the window felt being mostly gone doesn't help. Ill see mid to low 40's once im on the highway. At idle it's alright but I need to wire up a condenser fan and plug all the empty spaces
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(06-30-2020, 09:43 PM)Krisverde Wrote:  It looks like you are in AZ too. 
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Placerville, California
(former)  2.3T '78 Courier ~ (current)  2.3T '87 Ranger & '82 Mazda B2200 (smog-exempt diseasel truck)
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